Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/28/1994 03:36 PM Senate RES

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 SENATOR MILLER announced  SB 339  (MANAGEMENT OF STATE LAND AND               
 RESOURCES) to be up for consideration.  He said they would take               
 testimony only.                                                               
                                                                               
 CLIFF EAMES, Alaska Center for the Environment, supported SB 339              
 and most of the proposed amendments.  They appear to be                       
 housekeeping amendments.  He said the catastrophic nature of the              
 insect infestation has been grossly overstated in Alaska.                     
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-31, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 580                                                                   
                                                                               
 The idea that these trees are wasted if they are not logged is not            
 the case, if you talk to an ecologist, MR. EAMES said.  These trees           
 are recycled into the ecosystem which has been the case for                   
 hundreds of thousands of years.  In conclusion, he opposed sections           
 20 and 21 of SB 339.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 568                                                                    
                                                                               
 LARRY SMITH, Kachemak Resource Institute, said he has spent 20                
 years chasing bark bugs one way or the other.  Professionally he is           
 a lumber user.  He said that bad logging caused more beetles.  We             
 need to have consistency within the forestry division which is                
 headed by a good person this year.  Our recent experience with                
 salvage sales in Cook Inlet should be closely examined.  The big              
 bark beetle scare led to a 223,000 acre long term sale to a big               
 international company in which we lost a lot of money, damaged                
 habitat, and caused more bark beetles.                                        
                                                                               
 MR. SMITH said he believed we need enforcement of the provisions              
 enacted by the legislature in 1990 to control bark beetles.  DNR              
 needs to do what they were told by the legislature before the rules           
 are changed again.                                                            
                                                                               
 STEVE GIBSON, Homer, said he was a local sawmiller for the last 15            
 years.  He said section 20 is unnecessary for a responsible                   
 planning agency.  Under current 5 year planning requirements, the             
 sale can be executed within 14 months of conception.  Most of the             
 timber on the Kenai Peninsula is of marginal or submarginal value             
 when not infested.  It requires a subsidy even to sell it.                    
                                                                               
 SB 339 is a law designed to circumvent intelligent public opinion             
 and not solicit it.  He strongly urged them to abandon sections 20            
 and 21 of SB 339.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 512                                                                    
                                                                               
 GLENN JUDAY, Fairbanks, said he is a professional forester and was            
 concerned with sections 20 and 21, because they look like an avenue           
 to avoid conforming with the land use plan in place for the                   
 affected area.  He was also concerned that it requires the                    
 Commissioner to see into the future regarding insect epidemic.                
 Rather than lose substantial economic value, there should be some             
 requirement to provide for a net return to the state on its                   
 resources.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 483                                                                    
                                                                               
 JAN DAWE, Fairbanks, was concerned with sections 20 and 21 of SB
 339.  She said it does in a backdoor manner what SB 310 does in the           
 open.  She is concerned the last leg of the 5 year timber harvest             
 schedule is being taken away from public oversight.                           
                                                                               
 She asked for the rationale behind section 21 and how they get a              
 best interest finding out of it.                                              
                                                                               
 MR. BOUTIN said the Division has run into this issue quite                    
 regularly particularly when the Department of Transportation is               
 going to use barrow pits and where there has been an intended                 
 conversion to agricultural use.  Sometimes those conversions need             
 to take place more quickly than 38.05.113 would allow.                        
                                                                               
 MS. DAWE said the public should have advanced notice and strongly             
 urged they to remand sections 20 and 21.                                      
                                                                               
 LANE THOMPSON, Fairbanks civil engineer, opposed sections 20 and 21           
 of SB 339 which seems to be designed to circumvent the public                 
 comment that is possible under existing law.  With the University             
 lands and Mental Health lands coming up, there is a much bigger               
 opportunity for clear cutting than would be available under                   
 existing law.  He opposed sections 20 and 21, because they are                
 designed to keep the public out.  We need to get on with rational             
 planning of the long-term logging industry in the Tanana Valley, he           
 said, and drop SB 310 and SB 339.                                             
                                                                               
 SILVIA WARD, Norther Alaska Environmental Center, commented that in           
 sections 20 and 21 with salvage sales there is no requirement for             
 reforestation which is not good forestry practice.                            
                                                                               
 Number 380                                                                    
                                                                               
 DOUG YATES, Fairbanks, objected to sections 20 and 21.  Salvage               
 sales are negotiated sales of forest resources and response the               
 insect infestation is unwarranted at this time.  These sections               
 will not improve forest health, appear to be designed to create a             
 false rational for timber harvest.  Please tighten the existing               
 regulations within the Division of Forestry, he urged.  Follow the            
 public process and provide regulatory continuity for Alaska's                 
 forest resources.  Economic values of unutilized wood fiber is not            
 the only measurement you should be considering.                               
                                                                               
 MARTHA REYNOLDS, Fairbanks, said section 20 sets no limits on size            
 of salvage sales and shows no provision for public input, even if             
 the sales are very large.  She is concerned that sections 20 and 21           
 make no mention of net income flow and have no requirements for the           
 state getting fair value for their timber resources.                          
                                                                               
 WILLIAM DUNNE, Alaska Environmental Lobby, has little or no                   
 objections to the majority of proposed changes to SB 339 which have           
 been updated.  Other provisions, sections 20 and 21, will cause               
 great harm to the environment and should be addressed separately.             
                                                                               
 His objections were to the conditions of salvage sales in section             
 20.  They do support the salvage of timber on land that would be              
 converted to nonforest uses.  They oppose exempting salvage timber            
 sales for existing size limits, public involvement, and restoration           
 provisions of state law.  Many biologists and forest ecologists               
 feel that forest epidemics are self regulating and actually improve           
 habitat for many types of wildlife.  Records indicate that bark               
 beetle outbreaks have occurred regularly over the past 70 years               
 without negative impacts to overall forest health.  Forest health             
 problems are associated with fire suppression, poor logging                   
 practices, seismic trail power line, and road building activities.            
                                                                               
 Salvage sale provisions in sections 20 and 21 would create a                  
 loophole allowing large scale negotiated long term timber sales in            
 areas where DNR claims health problems exist.  The U.S. Forest                
 Service has abused their salvage sale provisions extensively on               
 national forests for years.  These sections would give the                    
 Commissioner of DNR extraordinary latitude in determining and even            
 predicting forest health, employment levels, and timber values.               

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